Daniel Band: Canadian Christian Rock Legends

Arin Hancock: on this episode of the Rock and Metal Faith podcast. We're going to dive into another CCR band that is Canadian Christian Rocker. And we're going to talk about Daniel Band, a band we've just kind of discovered ourselves. So we'll give you our thoughts on that Welcome to the Rock and Metal Faith Podcast where it's all about the rock that makes me sing Christian rock and metal from the classics to the bands of today. I'm your host Arin Hancock joined with my co-host Kris Plamondon. How are you doing Kris?

Kris plamondon: I am doing good. how are you?

Arin Hancock: I'm doing good. The weather's looking nice and all that. So, alright, I guess we should get right into it. Normally we start off with news. There isn't too much in news. Yeah, we don't have too much in news to say today. Not too much we haven't said. Although, I'm not sure if you've heard of this story. One of the new artists, Magdalene Rose, she's this young female rock and roller.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, no news. Okay.

Arin Hancock: And she's into, you know, metal, the new metal with the screams and the vocals and all this. She, I you, she can really belt it out. However, she ran into a bit of a problem recently. Some of the churches that booked her kind of looked at her after they booked her and go, Oh, I don't know about this and started dropping her. They didn't like her image. They didn't like her sound. I thought we were past all this, you know?

Kris plamondon: Yeah, you know what? We should have her on the show. We really should reach out to her. Is it like, like who would you like ⁓ Avril Lavigne? Who would you say?

Arin Hancock: She would eat Averlevin for breakfast. We're talking like, like, we're talking full-fledged metalcore.

Kris plamondon: Okay, okay, that will give a taste to people.

Arin Hancock: and and she can sing but she does yes yes she does the metal cord vocals i tell you i've heard some of her stuff and when she bouts out the screams it's scary that that kind of voice comes out of someone like her and i mean that in

Kris plamondon: ⁓ so the heavy scream though. Okay, I want to I I want to check her out. Well, not not that way but you know

Arin Hancock: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, I'll send you a link to some of our music and let me know what you think. I don't know. Yeah, I don't mind some of our stuff. Maybe you my post recently. I'd uploaded a picture of four new albums that I just got recently. Included with those were a couple old records that are old CDs that I found at a secondhand shop. These disciples.

Kris plamondon: ⁓ check her out. Yeah.

Arin Hancock: horseshoes and hand grenades. yeah. And take me a little idea. Take me a little while get into it. I'm not too sure, you know, about the vocals on that. There are some songs on there I do like. And the other one was Demon Hunter's Extremist. And I you, that is some pretty heavy stuff on there. Although we did talk about one of the songs off of that record. That's got the one cross

Kris plamondon: I love that album. That is a great album. I think I have it.

Arin Hancock: to bear, which we talked about on the Songs of the Cross episode. So I actually got the record that that came And then from there, I went to the lighter stuff. ⁓ ⁓ got the new Petra one on CD. ⁓ got the new mic. Yes. And I got the new Michael Sweet on CD as well. So from some lights.

Kris plamondon: ⁓ you got it? That's cool. What do you mean the new one?

Arin Hancock: Yes. The brand new one is Out1CD.

Kris plamondon: I want to get it. I'll have to get you send me what it's called. No figure. We had a ⁓ wait I don't have a DVD player shoot

Arin Hancock: It's called the Master Planet. Well, it's called the Master Plan You gotta get a CD player. Just go to a pawn shop and buy one.

Kris plamondon: I saw it. saw it. Okay. I think I saw it here online. Yeah. I have to find my.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, ⁓ it is in all the streaming services, including Apple Music and all that. I know you're into Apple. ⁓ So yeah, so that's some interesting stuff, some new acquisitions I got. That's about it. The only other thing I had in news was I was listening to a podcast. They were talking about the monsters of rock cruise which just wrapped up just recently. prior to this recording. One of the podcast hosts there is a Stryper fan, caught Stryper, both shows on the Monsters of Rock cruise loved their set. said, you know, he they did his favorite songs. They all sounded good, sounded great. I mean, the Stryper, you know, what more can you say? They bring it, they kill it.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, I do. I don't think I've ever heard you say anything- Well, wait, yes I have heard you say something bad about Stryper.

Arin Hancock: What? I don't remember that.

Kris plamondon: Well, when we talked about that album that he left, for a while. ⁓

Arin Hancock: Oh, oh you you are when he came back you talking about the reborn record. Yes

Kris plamondon: Yes, yeah, yeah, that was one thing. Yeah, yeah.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, that one has grown on me. ⁓ When it first came out, was not my favorite just because of the style that it was. anyways, yeah, we're getting there. I think that's about it for news. You got anything?

Kris plamondon: Is there any news regarding the podcast?

Arin Hancock: No? ⁓

Kris plamondon: Updates? No, no, that our fans need to be aware of? No, no, we're not

Arin Hancock: I don't think so. No, but that does bring up actually good reminder. Thanks for reminding me. We, ⁓ you know, want to remind you guys out there to share out this episode, let everybody know you're, you're listening, trying to get all your friends into it and listen. And, ⁓ yeah. So like subscribe, share all that good stuff. Alright, well, let's do the plug-it-in then. Okay, so this this plug-in in song has a bit of a tie-in to today's episode. We're gonna discover the guy. I think I discovered this guy through through Facebook or a Facebook ad or something like this. I checked out his stuff ⁓ on It's not that heavy as far as ⁓ stuff But ⁓ the artist So his artist name is Long Live the King. He is based out of Neaheel County here in Alberta.

Kris plamondon: No way!

Arin Hancock: Yeah. And he's been performing professionally for about 10 years. His sound is described as pop funk to rock to ballads. And his real name is Gullier Conteros. And that's about all I know of him other than his music. And I think he says he records everything himself. I think it's a one man artist. ⁓ the artist name is Long Live the King. And he's got a bunch of singles on all the streaming services. And this is a song, one of his called, what is it Freedom? Let me just look up the name of the song here. Make sure I get the whole name of it.

Kris plamondon: Wow, what's it called again? Sorry.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, the song is called Freedom. So that's freedom from Long Live the King. If you that go check it out. Yeah, I think that's about the heaviest that he gets that I could find. A lot of this stuff is kind of lighter rock.

Kris plamondon: That's pretty good. I like the rhythm of the guitar, especially the female background vocals. I thought that was a little, that's different.

Arin Hancock: Right. OK, well, now I want to Daniel Band, I guess. And so we've been doing these mini series off and on called, well, basically, Canadian Christian artists, or the Canadian Christian rockers.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, the ones we could find. I think they're out there.

Arin Hancock: most of the ones we're going talk to are those who've released albums that have some bit of notoriety. ⁓ did we talk about already that was Canadian? can't remember. I know we talked about another... ⁓ Salome or I think that I think I should say the name correctly. I used to pronounce the band Siloam, but I think the actual pronunciation is Salome.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, Salome, that rings a bell. I've heard of them. ⁓ yeah.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, well, we talked about them. Remember, we talked about that one record of theirs. Anyways, we're talking about another Canadian band called Daniel Band. And also, this is a band, I don't know why I didn't, I know why I didn't know about them because I didn't start listening to Christian rock or Christian metal till about 87 and that's when these guys were dropping off the scene. And...

Kris plamondon: Yes. Yes.

Arin Hancock: But you know, I actually like these guys. I didn't know about these guys until I started the podcast. I did research on who's out there, who are bands we should talk about. Daniel Band came up. They've been at Immortal Fest last year. They will be at Immortal Fest this year again. So they released any albums for a long time, but I guess they're still active playing ⁓

Kris plamondon: Really?

Arin Hancock: A lot of these bands that are doing Immortal Fest are either newly formed supergroups like Human Code type of thing or the old bands that have come out of retirement. Well, even Stop the Bleeding, is essentially Tourniquet have come out of retirement but under the new name Stop the Bleeding, but they're playing Tourniquet songs.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, theocracy, yeah.

Arin Hancock: Anyways, ⁓ yeah, so that's

Kris plamondon: ⁓ now you, thanks Arin you got my mind now playing pathogenic ocular distance into my mind! Arin!

Arin Hancock: Thank No, no, back to Daniel Band.

Kris plamondon: That is totally not cool.

Arin Hancock: Alright, we're back to Daniel Band. ⁓ So actually, you know what, we started talking about this before I hit record. What are your thoughts on Daniel Band?

Kris plamondon: I mean, for a Canadian band and for the albums, if you look like back in the 90s, their lyrics are awesome. mean, for going by album, their songs are really good. To me, it just feels like when I listen to it, I was like, I felt like I was listening to to to remember as a kid. don't know if your parents ever introduced you to, ⁓ what's it called? I had the name when I lost it. They were kids singing this song, of adult song, like mini pops, that's what it was. That's the feel I got listening to Daniel Ben. I just, I mean, I like them. They're really cool. Their riffs, their opening is awesome, it's different, but it just didn't, maybe it was at that time the production wasn't that.

Arin Hancock: ⁓ you mean like the mini pops? Well that's what I know too, they had some great songs and the production wasn't always there. we'll get into little bit of history but yeah I think they suffer from either low budget or bad production. A of the songs kind of sound like they're nothing more than a demo.

Kris plamondon: Good. Or if they were taped in the garage.

Arin Hancock: the

Kris plamondon: And I understand that. both know a band that did tapings for that for a while and they sounded awesome, you know.

Arin Hancock: You know, well, and sometimes you can have a really good sounding demo and these ones, you know, the songs are great. I don't know if the quality of production was there and, you know, a lot suffer with that. Maybe that's just due to no budget or something. I don't know, but.

Kris plamondon: And maybe that was the sound they wanted.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I don't know. that's something actually I did not research was who produced each record. I don't know. I didn't look at that. But anyways, a little bit of history. So Daniel Band was formed in Toronto, Canada, 1979. They released five records from 82 to 87. And some of these records are coming out like more after another like

Kris plamondon: ⁓

Arin Hancock: So they must have a lot of songs ready to go or something. I don't know. ⁓ But we got Dan McCabe on vocals and bass. Tony Rossi on guitar and vocals. Bill Findlay on guitar keyboards. Matt Del Duca on drums. Now one thing I noticed too was think now it says here both Dan McCabe and Toni Rossi would do vocals and I think both in the lead vocals because some songs sounded like a different vocalist than other ones So I'm thinking I'm thinking the two of them trade it off if anyone out there knows more about Daniel band than we do comment Yeah, you know, we love to hear from you whether you like the episode would you like a show whether we Mess up and say something wrong. Let us know that do you know, I'm not above being corrected ⁓

Kris plamondon: Yeah, that's right. Exactly, let us know.

Arin Hancock: Yeah.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, we don't, I always made it if I'm wrong. No, I got no problem with that. But the other thing I know, there was some songs that were really good that reminded me of the 80s band, Loverboy. You know, like that, maybe the other vocalist, his vocals were wow. I mean.

Arin Hancock: up. Well, I was gonna bring that up too. ⁓ I could see Loverboy now that you bring that up. Not what I was thinking. Some of their songs reminded me of Triumph and other songs reminded me of Rush. There's a parts where it really sounded like were taking cues from Rush or something like this. the song, You're All I Need, definitely Triumph inspired. I'm not going to say they're ripping anybody off, but definitely inspired by Triumph. ⁓

Kris plamondon: I don't think back then they had to worry about copyright. So, nowadays bands will go after you, right?

Arin Hancock: Alright, so the idea now was to kind go through their discography and try and talk about our songs our favorite songs from the band, maybe a song we didn't like from them. And the first record from the band is called On Rock, coming out in 1982 on Streetlight Records in Canada and in... US was lamb and lion or Benson lamb and lion must be like a subsidiary of Benson so from on rock what sounds did you like off of that one

Kris plamondon: Which which out when we look at I have the rock collection

Arin Hancock: Okay, that was probably, yeah, so the rock collection sounds like it was like all the records put together or something like that.

Kris plamondon: ⁓ Oh, they were put together? Well, that sucks. I like to...

Arin Hancock: Yeah. ⁓ me look it up here.

Kris plamondon: Ha!

Arin Hancock: And actually, I'm going do an audible on this one. So, ⁓

Kris plamondon: Well, yeah, you go first

Arin Hancock: Uh, well, I was going to, I'm going to call an audible in this because I had written down undercover Christian, which I thought was a good song. Okay. So put that as yours, cause I'm going to actually pass that one just because the more I listen to it, the more I'm thinking, I liked it when I first heard it and the more I hear it, I'm like, it's not bad, but I don't know if it's great.

Kris plamondon: That's good song, yes.

Arin Hancock: ⁓ The other one I like though from that one is Free From Sin.

Kris plamondon: Yes, ⁓ yeah, I gave five stars to that one from Sin. That was pretty cool.

Arin Hancock: Alright, let's play a little bit of that then. you what the other one I'm say that I like I'm going to say he's the creator ⁓ that's the first song on that record. That's the lead-off song that's one thing I noticed is every lead-off song on their record ⁓ a banger a great song sets the tone for the record I think

Kris plamondon: Yes.

Arin Hancock: the other one in the sky actually reminded me of rush so I mean I said only two songs in here I just rattle off for a while

Kris plamondon: Hahaha!

Arin Hancock: Was there anything on there you did not like?

Kris plamondon: ⁓ From that album. You don't need the...

Arin Hancock: Don't need the blues.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, the blues you don't need the blues. That's what it was the blues. Yeah, daddy

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I could kind of agree with that. I was gonna put that as my favorite and again more listening to him going, I don't know. It's not the best.

Kris plamondon: It just didn't, I don't know, musically it's good, I just didn't add it to my list.

Arin Hancock: No, you're right. That's one that I could probably say would be one of the ones I would put down as the worst on the record. Not saying it's a bad song, but it's just not the best. The other one I wrote down is I give you all. And you know what I did for trying to find my least favorite on these records? I started looking for the ballads.

Kris plamondon: You you look for the ballads That was the other thing I wanted to talk about. They really do. They don't do the greatest ballads but they're okay. You know?

Arin Hancock: Yeah. And you know, they're actually not bad. When I listen to some of the ballads and says, I'm gonna write these down as my least favorite, I'm going, you know, this isn't that bad. I can't say it's my least favorite, so.

Kris plamondon: No, no.

Arin Hancock: Alright,

Kris plamondon: We'll have to do an episode of the greatest that Kris and Arin like.

Arin Hancock: Alright, I'll have to think long and hard about my ⁓ so the next album comes out a year later, Straight Ahead comes out in 1983. Once again, it's on street light in Canada. And this time it's Refuge or Benson in the US.

Kris plamondon: You There it is, okay. I found mine.

Arin Hancock: Kris, you gotta be more organized. Okay, ⁓ so, from your record straight ahead, what did you have for your picks?

Kris plamondon: I know, I was organized. I like thank you, probably because of ballad And lustful I thought that was really well done.

Arin Hancock: That was not bad. I almost picked that one actually and You know again, thank you. I was gonna say that's the ballerica. Let's not really ball it and that one's a little bit different ⁓ almost like almost a little regae almost like Petra's new one oxygen ⁓ and I'm ⁓ I got put that one's my least favorite ⁓ and going you know what? No, it's not not that bad. But yeah, so you went with lustful illusions and thank you

Kris plamondon: Yes.

Arin Hancock: actually not bad. ⁓ Those are both good songs. I like those ones too. What did I write down? reality and coming home.

Kris plamondon: ⁓ that's a, yeah, that would be an audible note for me. Reality was.

Arin Hancock: You know, I've been listening to so much Daniel Ben over the last week there and everything they had that started running together for me. But let's do a clip from coming home.

Kris plamondon: I couldn't get, I could only listen to them twice.

Arin Hancock: Sorry, what were we saying?

Kris plamondon: I said I only was able to listen to them twice just to go through.

Arin Hancock: Okay. I kept listening to it just to see, what do I like off this one? What do I like off this? And sometimes I'd play them all in random. Sometimes I'd play each record separately. Anyways, but yeah, one of my picks that I liked from where it straight ahead, yeah, was Coming Home.

Kris plamondon: Straight ahead.

Arin Hancock: And you know one thing about Daniel Band, like said, I don't know who sings which songs. I didn't know it was that sound. Unless the guy was really talented and can do different stuff with his voice, you know, almost like Axl Rose of GNR. Some of stuff that GNR did on their first record, I couldn't believe it was the same vocalist. Now I don't know if Daniel Band is like that or not, but they have two different lead vocalists.

Kris plamondon: Yes. Yeah. It almost reminded me, it almost reminded me, they were trying to put a little back in the eighties. Do you remember Hall and Oates? They both had vocalists and they both had ranges. ⁓ me, that's what Daniel Band was trying to get. They had two guys who could do two different things. But yet I think there's a song on one album.

Arin Hancock: But they're vocals, least. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

Kris plamondon: They do it like a duet together and it's wow. Like it. I mean, they both could sing. I will give them credit for that. They know what they're doing.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, this was a case, I think, where they worked through the strength of each one. know, they're different from each other. They both have different strengths and it depended on what the song required. Like the guy who does the triumph inspired songs. And these are the sounds that kind of start off with the clean guitar and then build up to the heavy guitars. And, know, he's got an incredible voice when they do that. ⁓ And want to say that's Dan McCabe doing that? I don't know. And the other thing is the lead guitar work on this, on all their stuff is incredible. You know, the guitar is just rock. And some of their songs, it's simple. You know, they're pulling all the, especially on the lead solos, they're pulling out all the typical cliche riffs and tricks. But

Kris plamondon: Mm-hmm.

Arin Hancock: This is back in the early 80s, everybody was doing it. And they make it work. You know, it's not the fact that they're doing what everybody's doing. They make it sound good. ⁓ the

Kris plamondon: the br- if they- that's right, if they had better- I don't know, maybe someone will step up and say, hey, re-do the album again, and I think- I think they would sound pretty nice with really good production, you know?

Arin Hancock: Right. Alright, so then we get 1984, Run from the Darkness. What were your thoughts on this one, on what were your favorite songs on this?

Kris plamondon: Yes, okay. Don't give up. I really liked that one. That was a nice song. And of course Run From Darkness, That was a good song. Did you like, what about Walk On One?

Arin Hancock: Okay, yeah, the title track.

Kris plamondon: Okay.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I'd agree with you with Walk on Water. I think that was my... one of my favorites.

Kris plamondon: That was a really good song. Yeah. car.

Arin Hancock: the

Kris plamondon: They just come out of nowhere. Yeah. They really...

Arin Hancock: any guitarist worth a salt can do, but it works for the song, you know. ⁓ It's an example of writing for the song, I think. ⁓ And yeah, Walk On Water, great song. I actually have three on there. Now you had Run From The Darkness, and I thought, yeah, ⁓ that's a popular song definitely a fan favorite. And I'm going, yeah, it's OK. ⁓

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah

Arin Hancock: It's I don't know It was it's easy to say that that that's great song just because it's such a popular song and I'm sure I'm gonna sure put that one down. I don't know. I actually had three down ⁓ Trying to figure out which one I best walk on the water. Definitely. So you and I agree on that one

Kris plamondon: Yeah, definitely was. I caught my attention. I have it on my own private playlist. And so I thought it was pretty good.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I downloaded a few of these ⁓ from my personal collection now too. The other ones I added were live connection. And let's get ready. Also on this was another popular one called 16. And the only thing I didn't like about that was... Okay, what are you doing flipping the papers around, Kris? You need to be organized.

Kris plamondon: I know, I was trying to... I know, I'm quite glad. That's all I need.

Arin Hancock: But yeah 16 don't and I didn't like about that is they brought in the fake audience this Was not recorded live. They made it sound like it was just by running an audio or an audience Track over top well at the beginning of the song It's good song really Yeah, you know actually as these guys went along with with each record they got a little bit heavier a little bit harder and

Kris plamondon: At the beginning of song, yeah.

Arin Hancock: I think as any band should, they've progressively gotten better and better at it. And it was hard for me to just two songs. ⁓

Kris plamondon: Yes, yes, that's right. I was waiting for the Deliverance kind of song, but I just didn't find it with the Daniel band. And that's okay. No.

Arin Hancock: Well, no, this is not deliverance. If you want down the road, we can cover deliverance.

Kris plamondon: We should, we should.

Arin Hancock: We'll get there, you know, we got lots, to talk about. Unfortunately, we have quite so much time with Daniel, but this may be a shorter episode.

Kris plamondon: Yeah. ⁓ I know. Yeah, this is a, to our fans, this is a slower episode, you know?

Arin Hancock: that's alright. ⁓ Where are we now? We're on Rise Up. ⁓ what is it? Anything I didn't like...

Kris plamondon: Yeah, that's all right.

Arin Hancock: We talked about, hang on here. I should get organized too. I forgot. I was going to mention the songs I didn't like. So From straight ahead, the one I did not like was called, Coming to My Life. I would say that's probably the weakest one on that one. From Run from the Darkness, since we're still on that one. ⁓ I would say, My Children. No, sorry.

Kris plamondon: ⁓

Arin Hancock: My children is on that but I don't know why and maybe again if anyone out there knows they can reply with a comment they can message us or even email us. I noticed there was one song on two records and it's what I picked from my weakest song off one of the records and realized I could pick it on two records because it appears on two records. And I'll get to that on Rise Up. It appears on As the song appears on Rise Up and on Run From The Darkness. So then I had to pick another song from Run From The Darkness as my least favorite or the weakest song off the record. From that one, I'm picking It's Over. ⁓ Anything on- on- from- from the darkness you didn't like?

Kris plamondon: Wow. I really like the power of love from that album. And that was probably the most I could get out of that album because I had phone issues. it went boop.

Arin Hancock: Okay. Was there any... Okay, see this is why this is why you gotta do your homework ahead of time not just the day off

Kris plamondon: Yeah, so I couldn't listen to the rest of it. I did. I did. I did. Hey, hey, hey, I got most of it done, most like 95 % done.

Arin Hancock: Alright, note to self, when giving Kris homework, only talk about one record at a time.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, that was a lot of homework. That was a lot of homework. Yeah, but anyway, move on.

Arin Hancock: You can't handle multiple records. Well, we've got a couple weeks to listen to it.

Kris plamondon: All right. We can do it.

Arin Hancock: I'm gonna most of this stuff in and Alright, where are we now? we're going to rise up this came out in 1986 released on Refugee in the US. I don't know about Canada. I'm gonna say streetlight in Canada again. I don't So rise up You know, and this was a great record This is probably my favorite one from their discography. It was really hard to narrow this down to two songs that I like. ⁓ What were your favorites off Rise Up?

Kris plamondon: I really like Don't Walk Away. That is a rockin' And Right I thought Right Heart was pretty, that's I think kind of a ballad But it started off rockin'.

Arin Hancock: Okay. Why does that not have it all?

Kris plamondon: And yeah, that was two. What are your two?

Arin Hancock: first one I got is Rise Up. Basically the title track.

Kris plamondon: Yes, that's a good song.

Arin Hancock: Alright, yeah, know, the title track, you know, I could have easily said, what was it, Bethel, which was the first song on this. Again, you know, the way the album starts, it just kicks you in the teeth, in a good way, that is. Like our friend Terry used to say on Rockstand there, know, that was a song that would melt your feelings.

Kris plamondon: Mm-hmm. Yes, yes, I that might have been a song I added to my rise up. That was a good song.

Arin Hancock: Okay. Yeah, that's a one. I know when we first talked about Daniel Band I first checked him out. had picked out Rise Up and Rock You, which was a favorite song of mine. I actually added a song this time instead of going with Rock You, which I like. I want to talk about another song, Call His Name. I really like that one too. You know, I could have easily picked this entire record, I think. This is one of my favorite records from them.

Kris plamondon: Wow.

Arin Hancock: And to come up with a song I didn't like so much... ⁓ Yeah, I don't know. See, and the ones I'm listening to online all had some bonus tracks on the end of it, almost like they're the remastered or the deluxe versions of the records, not the original version. So they all had one or two bonus tracks. I wanted to ignore the bonus tracks. I just want to talk about songs that would have been on the original release. And I think... You know, again, let's just try this one here. Yeah, see, the ballad on this one is called Right Heart, and I would have picked that, and then I still listen to that going, this isn't a bad song, I don't wanna pick this as my least favorite.

Kris plamondon: Yes. Yeah, that's why I picked it in my top three. It's a pretty good song.

Arin Hancock: ⁓ was it? Okay. I didn't know you hadn't mentioned that, but yeah, I know it's good song. ⁓ So for... Where are we? Rise Up? ⁓ yeah. My least favorite on this one, I'm gonna go with My Children.

Kris plamondon: Hmm.

Arin Hancock: And this was a song, like I I mentioned was on this one, it was also on Run from the Darkness. I don't know why this song was on two albums. It wasn't good enough to be on two records. You know, there's a few others that could have...

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah.

Arin Hancock: And I give you all, yeah, I think I mentioned all that. I think we're now we're on to the last album, which was Running Out of Time, released in 1987.

Kris plamondon: time.

Arin Hancock: And I've got the US label Refuge or... Do you like this one better?

Kris plamondon: This was a better album. I thought it sounded better, ⁓ production wise. I connected with it more. That's just where I sit.

Arin Hancock: the

Kris plamondon: Yo.

Arin Hancock: I like Rise Up the best, not that saying that this is a bad record. ⁓ So this was your favorite record you're saying. Running out time.

Kris plamondon: Rise up I think so, yeah. I mean, with black and white, Party in Heaven, that was a kick-butt song. ⁓

Arin Hancock: ⁓ You just need my two picks. Yeah, you just need my two picks for this record.

Kris plamondon: Yeah.

Arin Hancock: Are those your two perks as well?

Kris plamondon: Yeah, yeah. Like those are two awesome songs. Yes, yeah. Was that in your old Daytona car?

Arin Hancock: no no no no, that's it, i just discovered them now! i just discovered-

Kris plamondon: No. ⁓ okay, now, okay. Right.

Arin Hancock: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, I didn't, I didn't know about Daniel Band back in the day. I kind of wish I had heard about them when they first came out.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, what happened with that publicity? Oh yeah, you said they're in Toronto, right?

Arin Hancock: You know, the ⁓

Kris plamondon: Yeah, we'll have to talk to our friend. Yeah, we'll have to talk to him and ask him, why didn't you play these guys?

Arin Hancock: Maybe was and we just missed it. And for those who don't know what we're talking about, ⁓ Christian Rock back when we were growing up, back in the 80s, was hard to find. There was no internet. People heard about this through word of mouth or through bookstores. And you had to go look for it And... ⁓

Kris plamondon: or you had to spend 40 bucks to order a cassette, which was nuts.

Arin Hancock: No, I didn't spend 40 bucks on a cassette, jeez, they were like-

Kris plamondon: If it was a special order, like if I had the... What CD did I buy that...

Arin Hancock: I bought a few afterwards. I we'll get in that, but I also want to bring up, we actually had a friend and there may have been a few Christian radio programs throughout the States, throughout Canada. don't know. We had one here where we're living in Edmonton. There was on a local radio station and broadcast overnight. the, yeah, yeah. Terry, who was the host of the program would play all this great stuff. The Holy soldier. the Whitecross, Rez, probably brought, I can't remember what he all played. It was all great stuff. You know, and maybe he did play Daniel Band and it was after we turned the radio off, I don't know, or we're listening to all the other great songs. This was like overnight radio, know. So if you stayed up all night, you obviously slept the next day. Although I did stay up all night, one day, or one night. And I hung out with him for the entire program.

Kris plamondon: Turnig it. ⁓ I did too. I did that once. That was cool. That'd be cool.

Arin Hancock: at the radio station. And yeah, no, those are fun times. what else was I gonna say about? yeah ⁓ talking about ordering stuff. I discovered bride through the bookstore. I think about brides CD Snakes in the and playground ⁓ Went back and bought the all the older stuff You know by that time you had to order it through the website or I think they were in there was slowly coming out or mail order I did buy everything Bride had at that previously and it was actually kind of funny because I remember friends of mine were saying, ⁓ you bought the older Bride? I don't know if you're like that, it's different than snakes. Well, they're right, it was different than snakes. I still liked it though. Because yeah, the first two broad items were kind of borderline thrash and then they got into more commercial metal after that and then they were a band to kind of change their style with the trend and I didn't like it when they changed it with Grunge and the alternative scene, although we'll get into that later. We got more of those bands that did that to talk about down the road.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, like I mean, I only found out about most of these bands. My dad was part of a mailing system, so they would send us every month ⁓ a band. And one of the CDs they sent us was Deliverance, Stay of Execution. And I'm like, ⁓ yes, finally, a Christian band that's heavier.

Arin Hancock: That one I didn't have. managed to get, yeah, I got deliverance a little bit late. I got, think the first two on a single CD. Once the band got established, they would do these things combined because the albums or the cassettes and the records were shorter than the CDs were. And sometimes you get two of them on a CD. So once the CD format came out, they would start doing that combining records on one CD and

Kris plamondon: ⁓ I don't.

Arin Hancock: is like two for the price of one, it was great.

Kris plamondon: And the other place I found out about bands was when I bought, my dad would buy videos and on the videos they had the music videos of some of the bands. Like Petra and, ⁓ I'm trying to think of what other bands I saw that I, I got to find them and that's where some of the bands I I liked, I had to special order them out of the US.

Arin Hancock: Well, that goes back to, you know what, that goes back to our, I think, a first episode or a second episode when we were currently introducing the podcast and we're talking about discovering music. And I've got that Hot Metal 4 video cassette. It's got, it's got Deliverance, it's got Vengeance rising on there. Ransom, it's got Ken Tamplin, it's got Tourniquet on there. ⁓ Interesting stuff.

Kris plamondon: Yes, yes. Ransom, yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, I knew who Ken Tamplin was because I was a fan of Shout, right? His first band.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, I think they got Ken Tamplin and a Shout Song on the same video. Anyways, back to Daniel Band. Unfortunately, they never made it into any these compilations, I guess. Maybe they should have. now to wrap up Daniel Band is basically mention our least favorite song from Running Out of Time. ⁓ Anything on you did not like or you think the least of that record? ⁓

Kris plamondon: writing out of time hang on let me find it I like black and white that was a good song

Arin Hancock: Yeah, yeah, we talked about that. ⁓ Was there anything you did not like? Or you think is the worst of the best?

Kris plamondon: Well, I like black and white. ⁓ yeah, we talked about party in heaven and

Arin Hancock: Yeah, ⁓ what did you not like?

Kris plamondon: the rest of the songs.

Arin Hancock: Are those the only two you liked? Yeah. I thought, I thought, the rest were okay. I don't think they're great. I'm with you on black and white and party in heaven. Those are the two best. And I'm going through this, okay, what am going to pick from my least favorite? And all these I'm thinking, well, they're not bad. I don't know if they're great, but they're not bad. I came up with, uh, hold on.

Kris plamondon: That was the only two I liked, yeah.

Arin Hancock: from learning out of time. That was probably, yeah, my least favorite of that one.

Kris plamondon: Yeah, I agree.

Arin Hancock: And you know what, think we've pretty much filled up an episode. Which is good. Five records, Daniel Band. Okay. I'm gonna introduce you to that next episode, is Kris, does he do his homework? Plamondon

Kris plamondon: I think so. See, I did my homework. Come on, don't pick on me, I do my job!

Arin Hancock: All right. Yeah, so you know what? There's the this has been a sample of Daniel band if he didn't know who they were. I know we've got some viewers listeners kind of commenting to us saying, hey, I like your program. He introduced us to.

Kris plamondon: We love hearing that or reading it, sorry.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, and I've had comments from people saying, you like the fact that you introduced me to artists I didn't know about and the ones I do know about is nice walking down memory lane. So thanks for that. Keep comments like that coming. And if we disappoint you guys, let us know and we'll see if we can do better next time.

Kris plamondon: Yes, if Arin has said it already, if you guys know of any Christian bands in your area that are new, give us a shout. Send us a video clip or audio clip. That'd be awesome.

Arin Hancock: Yeah, we're happy to play and promote. I'm actually getting tired of trying to do the leg work and find out who I need to play on to plug it in. So if you got suggestions, send them our way. I want to close out. yeah. So yeah, don't forget to like subscribe and all that and turn others onto the podcast so we can grow and not be the best kept secret. We want everyone to know about us. I want to

Kris plamondon: Yeah, tell the world.

Arin Hancock: Alright, ⁓ yeah, Tell the World. Wasn't there a song about that? Tell the World? I it was a Guardian song. Anyways, ⁓ I guess we should close out. I want to finish off with a clip from Party in Heaven. So before we play that, anything else you want to say?

Kris plamondon: I'm up for that. That's a idea.

Arin Hancock: Alright, yeah, so God bless everybody. Keep on rockin'. And remember, there's gonna be a party in heaven.

Kris plamondon: Amen.

Arin Hancock: What a great riff this song has, ⁓

Kris plamondon: Yeah, for sure. ⁓ yeah, those guitars are a good ending. ⁓ yeah.